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		<title>By: Robert Bilenchi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Bilenchi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jan 2012 22:42:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is a much better way to make blanched basil pesto than using boiling water.  Much color and flavor is left in the blanching water and thrown out.  TRY THIS: use a double boiler to heat water in the bottom part to a boil.  Put all of the oil in your recipe in the top of the double boiler; when it heats up add the basil in small batches.  Leave the basil in the hot oil just enough time to allow to wilt (about 20-30 seconds).  remove the basil with tongs and put in a bowl.  Repeat until all the basil is wilted.  Allow all the blanched basil to cool and then process with the other ingredients in a blender.  This pesto will be bright and green and will not darken and will last in the fridg for months.  Genious!!  Try it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a much better way to make blanched basil pesto than using boiling water.  Much color and flavor is left in the blanching water and thrown out.  TRY THIS: use a double boiler to heat water in the bottom part to a boil.  Put all of the oil in your recipe in the top of the double boiler; when it heats up add the basil in small batches.  Leave the basil in the hot oil just enough time to allow to wilt (about 20-30 seconds).  remove the basil with tongs and put in a bowl.  Repeat until all the basil is wilted.  Allow all the blanched basil to cool and then process with the other ingredients in a blender.  This pesto will be bright and green and will not darken and will last in the fridg for months.  Genious!!  Try it.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Sep 2011 15:18:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Last summer I picked a vast quantity of purple basil from the CSA and made it into pesto. 
Now it wasn&#039;t green, but tastes the same as classic pesto, I froze some with the olive oil skimming the surface method (thinking since I&#039;ve always done this with the &quot;green kind&quot; perhaps it also helped with preserving the flavor), and over the winter added it at the last minute to my tomato sauces (color didn&#039;t matter).
It was magnificent!
I have tried several batches this summer with different nuts (pine nuts here are out of sight price-wise) and even made a batch for the 4th of July with cashews (my son&#039;s girlfriend Robin can&#039;t eat any nuts but cashews) and it went like wildfire!
Now I use them frequently and find I can &#039;cut back on the extra virgin olive oil, due to their richness!
I also use the tender stems of the basil along with the leaves, my food processor chops them up beautifully along with the other ingredients.
I love the ideas your blog responders have brought up - adding spinach, parsley, french sorrel, - seems like &#039;Pesto now refers to the flavored nut/cheese/leaf/garlic/oil - paste/sauce now and not the original Italian sauce produced in a morter and pestle...
I love the way this flavor combination has &#039;morphed into something new, and still beloved!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Last summer I picked a vast quantity of purple basil from the CSA and made it into pesto.<br />
Now it wasn&#8217;t green, but tastes the same as classic pesto, I froze some with the olive oil skimming the surface method (thinking since I&#8217;ve always done this with the &#8220;green kind&#8221; perhaps it also helped with preserving the flavor), and over the winter added it at the last minute to my tomato sauces (color didn&#8217;t matter).<br />
It was magnificent!<br />
I have tried several batches this summer with different nuts (pine nuts here are out of sight price-wise) and even made a batch for the 4th of July with cashews (my son&#8217;s girlfriend Robin can&#8217;t eat any nuts but cashews) and it went like wildfire!<br />
Now I use them frequently and find I can &#8216;cut back on the extra virgin olive oil, due to their richness!<br />
I also use the tender stems of the basil along with the leaves, my food processor chops them up beautifully along with the other ingredients.<br />
I love the ideas your blog responders have brought up &#8211; adding spinach, parsley, french sorrel, &#8211; seems like &#8216;Pesto now refers to the flavored nut/cheese/leaf/garlic/oil &#8211; paste/sauce now and not the original Italian sauce produced in a morter and pestle&#8230;<br />
I love the way this flavor combination has &#8216;morphed into something new, and still beloved!</p>
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		<title>By: Anna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Aug 2011 19:38:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just wanted to let you know how well the blanching technique worked for me. I did find the flavor too bland for me and essentially quadrupled the basil amount. I would also nix the lemon juice next time. We made a non-blanched pesto recipe and it was brown almost instantly. Yay for blanching! Thank you for this tidbit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just wanted to let you know how well the blanching technique worked for me. I did find the flavor too bland for me and essentially quadrupled the basil amount. I would also nix the lemon juice next time. We made a non-blanched pesto recipe and it was brown almost instantly. Yay for blanching! Thank you for this tidbit.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Apr 2011 00:05:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wendy is 100% right, much of the flavor is lost in this process.  Although the result was a beautiful, long-lasting green, the pesto was about 1/2 as strong as it normally is.  Another trick (which works okay, but not as well) is to cover it with saran wrap, pressing the saran wrap into the pesto, essentially not allowing air to come into contact with the mixture.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wendy is 100% right, much of the flavor is lost in this process.  Although the result was a beautiful, long-lasting green, the pesto was about 1/2 as strong as it normally is.  Another trick (which works okay, but not as well) is to cover it with saran wrap, pressing the saran wrap into the pesto, essentially not allowing air to come into contact with the mixture.</p>
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		<title>By: marc</title>
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		<dc:creator>marc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Nov 2010 02:27:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I&#039;m glad I found this blog. Here&#039;s my experiences:

Of course I found this blog because I searched for &quot;pesto turns brown&quot;. I&#039;ve been making pesto and freezing it for later (winter) use for years. I have ALWAYS had it discolor a bit but it always turned dark green, I was used to this. But this years &quot;batch 1&quot; turned brown as soon as it hit air and did so even more quickly once it hit the hot pasta. Yesterday I used  some of frozen batch 1 and got the same  brown color. Freezing does not help. Tastes OK though, as good as frozen can taste and still better than anything that I have found ready made in a store.

So I have to ask myself what was different in batch 1?

The basil was different variety than normal. Almost adult plants were available cheap so I got 3 pots. 

Much of the basil was older on the plant than I usually use. A bit tougher. The stems of the plant were just beginning to turn &quot;woody&quot;.

I used less spinach (normally 30% to 40 %), just a bit. I like to use spinach partially because it seems to add to the color...and the kids need it!!!

I remember being in a hurry and not drying the basil as well as usual after washing. I thought while making batch 1 and seeing turn brown before my eyes while doing so that this had something to do with it.

I don&#039;t like the idea of adding ascorbic acid regardless of form, lemon juice or straight vitamin C but may try this to see if I can preserve the color with out altering the sweet taste of the pesto I like. I use pecans instead of wall nuts specifically for their relative sweetness over sometimes bitter wall nuts. There goes my secret ingredient!!!!

I recently read the ingredients of the COSTCO  brand and it has some kind of vinegar in it, maybe to help with color preservation? That was enough for me not to try it.

I will likely try the blanching idea to see how it works out.

Unrelated pine nut tip:

As all us pesto makers know, pine nuts are EXPENSIVE. And the price has gone up dramatically lately, so much so than many suppliers currently do not carry them. Add to that the &quot;oxidized pine nuts&quot; controversy of Chinese products and you have a real problem.

I can&#039;t do with out. I add some roasted to the pesto I make and add liberal amounts of whole roasted pine nuts over the finished dish. 

So I found a place on Amazon that was selling 2 pounds of pine nuts for some ridiculously low price, it was less than $ 33.- including shipping, and they got here a few days after ordering. I thought even if these are oxidized Chinese pine nuts, it&#039;s worth a try since this would have only gotten me a few ounces at the local store.

The first order got here and was so darn fresh the nuts still smelled like a pine tree. No oxidation. Just good product.

I thought maybe I just got lucky. But the next batch I ordered a month and a half later was just as good. Nuts were were smaller but just fine.

Not everyone who has ordered from them was as happy as me by the feedback they left but I sure was!!!. I won&#039;t mention the name of the place, you can figure it out. Just though I&#039;d share.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I&#8217;m glad I found this blog. Here&#8217;s my experiences:</p>
<p>Of course I found this blog because I searched for &#8220;pesto turns brown&#8221;. I&#8217;ve been making pesto and freezing it for later (winter) use for years. I have ALWAYS had it discolor a bit but it always turned dark green, I was used to this. But this years &#8220;batch 1&#8243; turned brown as soon as it hit air and did so even more quickly once it hit the hot pasta. Yesterday I used  some of frozen batch 1 and got the same  brown color. Freezing does not help. Tastes OK though, as good as frozen can taste and still better than anything that I have found ready made in a store.</p>
<p>So I have to ask myself what was different in batch 1?</p>
<p>The basil was different variety than normal. Almost adult plants were available cheap so I got 3 pots. </p>
<p>Much of the basil was older on the plant than I usually use. A bit tougher. The stems of the plant were just beginning to turn &#8220;woody&#8221;.</p>
<p>I used less spinach (normally 30% to 40 %), just a bit. I like to use spinach partially because it seems to add to the color&#8230;and the kids need it!!!</p>
<p>I remember being in a hurry and not drying the basil as well as usual after washing. I thought while making batch 1 and seeing turn brown before my eyes while doing so that this had something to do with it.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t like the idea of adding ascorbic acid regardless of form, lemon juice or straight vitamin C but may try this to see if I can preserve the color with out altering the sweet taste of the pesto I like. I use pecans instead of wall nuts specifically for their relative sweetness over sometimes bitter wall nuts. There goes my secret ingredient!!!!</p>
<p>I recently read the ingredients of the COSTCO  brand and it has some kind of vinegar in it, maybe to help with color preservation? That was enough for me not to try it.</p>
<p>I will likely try the blanching idea to see how it works out.</p>
<p>Unrelated pine nut tip:</p>
<p>As all us pesto makers know, pine nuts are EXPENSIVE. And the price has gone up dramatically lately, so much so than many suppliers currently do not carry them. Add to that the &#8220;oxidized pine nuts&#8221; controversy of Chinese products and you have a real problem.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t do with out. I add some roasted to the pesto I make and add liberal amounts of whole roasted pine nuts over the finished dish. </p>
<p>So I found a place on Amazon that was selling 2 pounds of pine nuts for some ridiculously low price, it was less than $ 33.- including shipping, and they got here a few days after ordering. I thought even if these are oxidized Chinese pine nuts, it&#8217;s worth a try since this would have only gotten me a few ounces at the local store.</p>
<p>The first order got here and was so darn fresh the nuts still smelled like a pine tree. No oxidation. Just good product.</p>
<p>I thought maybe I just got lucky. But the next batch I ordered a month and a half later was just as good. Nuts were were smaller but just fine.</p>
<p>Not everyone who has ordered from them was as happy as me by the feedback they left but I sure was!!!. I won&#8217;t mention the name of the place, you can figure it out. Just though I&#8217;d share.</p>
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		<title>By: tirz</title>
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		<dc:creator>tirz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Oct 2010 19:21:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wow, this recipe is great - just amazing. so yummmmm and perfectly green :) I could eat this every day...thanks so much - it&#039;s really worth making!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow, this recipe is great &#8211; just amazing. so yummmmm and perfectly green <img src='http://www.mariasfarmcountrykitchen.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  I could eat this every day&#8230;thanks so much &#8211; it&#8217;s really worth making!</p>
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		<title>By: gina</title>
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		<dc:creator>gina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jan 2010 22:25:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve made large batches of pesto for several years (each from a single pot of basil grown on my urban balcony!) and didn&#039;t even realize there could be a problem with it turning brown. Mine remains bright green, including the stash currently in my freezer, in cubes and in plastic containers.

I use the leaves raw (ie, unblanched), plenty of garlic, and walnuts rather than pine nuts, as we prefer the taste - and don&#039;t mind that they&#039;re also cheaper! My BIG change is substituting chicken broth for half (or more) of the olive oil called for - makes it much less rich and oily, and more palatable for spreading on a cracker or sandwich. Try it, you may like it better, too!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve made large batches of pesto for several years (each from a single pot of basil grown on my urban balcony!) and didn&#8217;t even realize there could be a problem with it turning brown. Mine remains bright green, including the stash currently in my freezer, in cubes and in plastic containers.</p>
<p>I use the leaves raw (ie, unblanched), plenty of garlic, and walnuts rather than pine nuts, as we prefer the taste &#8211; and don&#8217;t mind that they&#8217;re also cheaper! My BIG change is substituting chicken broth for half (or more) of the olive oil called for &#8211; makes it much less rich and oily, and more palatable for spreading on a cracker or sandwich. Try it, you may like it better, too!</p>
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		<title>By: Peggy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peggy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jan 2010 23:02:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I grow basil every summer and make tons of pesto - some we eat right away and some we freeze - and it has always turned brown when the air hit it - whether it was frozen or not. I love it anyway, but always wished there was a way to keep it green. I&#039;ve tried the oil -on-top idea - which I&#039;m not really sure changed anything except that it caused us to eat too much oil. I&#039;ve also tried lemon juice, which I&#039;m not sure made any difference and which, I read somewhere makes the browning problem even worse. 

Then last night, a very COLD January night here in Washington, DC, I got the urge for the summery taste of pesto, but had used up my freezer stash, so I used some fresh basil that I found at Whole Foods in one of those plastic boxes. Same recipe as always, except that I used almonds instead of pine nuts since that&#039;s what I had, and guess what? It did not turn brown and what&#039;s left over today is still bright green!

SO - the question is: Might it be that the store-bought basil was a different variety of basil than what I&#039;ve been growing and might that have made the difference?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I grow basil every summer and make tons of pesto &#8211; some we eat right away and some we freeze &#8211; and it has always turned brown when the air hit it &#8211; whether it was frozen or not. I love it anyway, but always wished there was a way to keep it green. I&#8217;ve tried the oil -on-top idea &#8211; which I&#8217;m not really sure changed anything except that it caused us to eat too much oil. I&#8217;ve also tried lemon juice, which I&#8217;m not sure made any difference and which, I read somewhere makes the browning problem even worse. </p>
<p>Then last night, a very COLD January night here in Washington, DC, I got the urge for the summery taste of pesto, but had used up my freezer stash, so I used some fresh basil that I found at Whole Foods in one of those plastic boxes. Same recipe as always, except that I used almonds instead of pine nuts since that&#8217;s what I had, and guess what? It did not turn brown and what&#8217;s left over today is still bright green!</p>
<p>SO &#8211; the question is: Might it be that the store-bought basil was a different variety of basil than what I&#8217;ve been growing and might that have made the difference?</p>
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		<title>By: Jack Kriel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jack Kriel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 16:16:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the blanching info.  Last couple of years I&#039;ve harvested my neighbor&#039;s extra basil and her Hamilton Beach $5 garage sale food processor and gone at it.  As I make it the top layer of the last batch turns forest green while the rest keeps itself bright green.  Then I put batches into 1 qt freezer bags and freeze it up.

MY VARIATION:  Add an equal amount of fresh spinach (this year I found a great source from a local organic farmer) and save a few pennies by substituting walnuts for pine nuts.  Result:  Friends ask for batches...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the blanching info.  Last couple of years I&#8217;ve harvested my neighbor&#8217;s extra basil and her Hamilton Beach $5 garage sale food processor and gone at it.  As I make it the top layer of the last batch turns forest green while the rest keeps itself bright green.  Then I put batches into 1 qt freezer bags and freeze it up.</p>
<p>MY VARIATION:  Add an equal amount of fresh spinach (this year I found a great source from a local organic farmer) and save a few pennies by substituting walnuts for pine nuts.  Result:  Friends ask for batches&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Mary in Iowa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary in Iowa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Sep 2009 05:45:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve never had a problem with pesto made from raw leaves turning brown when frozen, but I always attributed that to the film of olive oil poured over the top of the pesto before putting the lids on the jars. The oil seals out air and prevents oxidation.  I did have an interesting experience this summer.  I&#039;ve always grown &quot;Genovese&quot; basil for pesto. This year I also grew a variety called &quot;Magical Michael&quot; for no other reason than that I have a son named Michael.  It turned dark while whirring in the food processor.  I followed with a batch of &quot;Genovese&quot; and it remained the usual bright green.  The brownish-green pesto tasted fine, but was not an appealing color.  So variety may also have a bearing on color retention.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve never had a problem with pesto made from raw leaves turning brown when frozen, but I always attributed that to the film of olive oil poured over the top of the pesto before putting the lids on the jars. The oil seals out air and prevents oxidation.  I did have an interesting experience this summer.  I&#8217;ve always grown &#8220;Genovese&#8221; basil for pesto. This year I also grew a variety called &#8220;Magical Michael&#8221; for no other reason than that I have a son named Michael.  It turned dark while whirring in the food processor.  I followed with a batch of &#8220;Genovese&#8221; and it remained the usual bright green.  The brownish-green pesto tasted fine, but was not an appealing color.  So variety may also have a bearing on color retention.</p>
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